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	<title>Comments on: Are social networks just pretty snowflakes?</title>
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		<title>By: Social Media &#8211; Is Social Not Working? &#171; thewordmonger&#39;s blog</title>
		<link>http://richardstacy.com/2009/09/21/are-social-networks-just-pretty-snowflakes/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Social Media &#8211; Is Social Not Working? &#171; thewordmonger&#39;s blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Social Media, social media experts, social media marketing, social media policy, Twitter)  Here&#8217;s an interesting post &#8211; as far as I can see, what it&#8217;s actually saying is that a good [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Social Media, social media experts, social media marketing, social media policy, Twitter)  Here&#8217;s an interesting post &#8211; as far as I can see, what it&#8217;s actually saying is that a good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mat Morrison</title>
		<link>http://richardstacy.com/2009/09/21/are-social-networks-just-pretty-snowflakes/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mat Morrison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. One of my favourite concerns is that - with so much data - it&#039;s relatively easy to set your objectives by what you want to measure, rather than the other way around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. One of my favourite concerns is that &#8211; with so much data &#8211; it&#8217;s relatively easy to set your objectives by what you want to measure, rather than the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: richardstacy</title>
		<link>http://richardstacy.com/2009/09/21/are-social-networks-just-pretty-snowflakes/#comment-415</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment - will look at the posts / articles you mentioned.  I am only half-convinced that my semi idea that social media isn&#039;t really about networks actually stands-up!  It is just a feeling that we may becoming overly focused on the tremedous data analysis opportunity it presents and in the process missing something more simple - touched on here http://richardstacy.com/2009/03/06/social-media-measurement-are-we-staring-at-the-stones/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment &#8211; will look at the posts / articles you mentioned.  I am only half-convinced that my semi idea that social media isn&#8217;t really about networks actually stands-up!  It is just a feeling that we may becoming overly focused on the tremedous data analysis opportunity it presents and in the process missing something more simple &#8211; touched on here <a href="http://richardstacy.com/2009/03/06/social-media-measurement-are-we-staring-at-the-stones/" rel="nofollow">http://richardstacy.com/2009/03/06/social-media-measurement-are-we-staring-at-the-stones/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mat Morrison</title>
		<link>http://richardstacy.com/2009/09/21/are-social-networks-just-pretty-snowflakes/#comment-414</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pleased that what you took away from my presentation was a healthy dose of scepticism re: identifying &quot;influencers&quot;. You&#039;ve only to read some of  &lt;a href=&quot;http://research.yahoo.com/Duncan_Watts&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Duncan Watts&#039;s papers&lt;/a&gt; (I recommend the one on &lt;a href=&quot;http://kottke.org/07/05/bigseed-marketing-instead-of-relying-purely-on&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Big Seed Marketing&lt;/a&gt;) to realise that the way we&#039;ve worked in the past (&quot;influencer marketing&quot;) is increasingly collapsing under the pressure of social media. I&#039;d argue that it hasn&#039;t totally gone away -- but simply overlaying an old-world model on a new-world phenomenon probably &lt;em&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; going to solve the problem.

There are (very roughly speaking) two things that we need to look at when we are investigating how things spread: the network or substrate in which they spread, and &lt;em&gt;the content that is being spread&lt;/em&gt;. There&#039;s a good deal of research into the latter part (although I&#039;ve rather focussed in the past on the former, I still maintain a keen interest here.) 

The &quot;London Twitter Festival Ends in Chaos as Crowd Clashes With Facebook Enthusiasts&quot; works for a variety of reasons (some of which are explored in &lt;a href=&quot;http://clickingandscreaming.com/2009/09/11/a-case-study-in-wit-and-timing/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a post by my colleague, Chris Nee&lt;/a&gt;. But there were plenty of &quot;interesting posts&quot; written that day that &lt;em&gt;didn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; make it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pleased that what you took away from my presentation was a healthy dose of scepticism re: identifying &#8220;influencers&#8221;. You&#8217;ve only to read some of  <a href="http://research.yahoo.com/Duncan_Watts" rel="nofollow">Duncan Watts&#8217;s papers</a> (I recommend the one on <a href="http://kottke.org/07/05/bigseed-marketing-instead-of-relying-purely-on" rel="nofollow">Big Seed Marketing</a>) to realise that the way we&#8217;ve worked in the past (&#8220;influencer marketing&#8221;) is increasingly collapsing under the pressure of social media. I&#8217;d argue that it hasn&#8217;t totally gone away &#8212; but simply overlaying an old-world model on a new-world phenomenon probably <em>isn&#8217;t</em> going to solve the problem.</p>
<p>There are (very roughly speaking) two things that we need to look at when we are investigating how things spread: the network or substrate in which they spread, and <em>the content that is being spread</em>. There&#8217;s a good deal of research into the latter part (although I&#8217;ve rather focussed in the past on the former, I still maintain a keen interest here.) </p>
<p>The &#8220;London Twitter Festival Ends in Chaos as Crowd Clashes With Facebook Enthusiasts&#8221; works for a variety of reasons (some of which are explored in <a href="http://clickingandscreaming.com/2009/09/11/a-case-study-in-wit-and-timing/" rel="nofollow">a post by my colleague, Chris Nee</a>. But there were plenty of &#8220;interesting posts&#8221; written that day that <em>didn&#8217;t</em> make it.</p>
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